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	<title>Comments on: Born standing up</title>
	<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/</link>
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246878</link>
		<dc:creator>Sawgunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NT, the Stormie Omartian connection to Stever was interesting. I felt as though I was reading a Paul Harvey gem.
I seem to recall that Steve Martin was involved with Ann Heche who later became Ellen Degeneris's live-in partner. Then lo and behold before you could say "homosexuality is genetic" Ann Heche had fallen in love with a photographer and soon became a mommy. (I dont think the marriage lasted. Heche is a bit "out there" to put it mildly).
I know who Dalton Trumbo was ("Johnny got His Gun") but I didnt know about his daughter. A few years back I saw a pic of the all-grown up daughter of former dictator of communist Poland Wocjiech Jerezelski. She was quite the looker as they say (or used to say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT, the Stormie Omartian connection to Stever was interesting. I felt as though I was reading a Paul Harvey gem.<br />
I seem to recall that Steve Martin was involved with Ann Heche who later became Ellen Degeneris&#8217;s live-in partner. Then lo and behold before you could say &#8220;homosexuality is genetic&#8221; Ann Heche had fallen in love with a photographer and soon became a mommy. (I dont think the marriage lasted. Heche is a bit &#8220;out there&#8221; to put it mildly).<br />
I know who Dalton Trumbo was (&#8221;Johnny got His Gun&#8221;) but I didnt know about his daughter. A few years back I saw a pic of the all-grown up daughter of former dictator of communist Poland Wocjiech Jerezelski. She was quite the looker as they say (or used to say).</p>
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		<title>By: Frank in Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246801</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank in Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;michelle (8):&lt;/b&gt; How many of you know him from the original Saturday Night Live acts?

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; I was pretty behind the times growing up. I never saw him on SNL (Either I wasn't allowed to watch it, or to stay up that late, I can't recall. But then, I was an easy-going kid, so it didn't matter to me. Heck, maybe I simply didn't care ... )

Anyhoo, I do remember the first time I saw Martin: Dad was watching the Gong Show, and I sat down to join him. One of the celeb judges was wearing twisty balloons on his head.

"Who's the guy wearing twisty balloons on his head?"

"Steve Martin."

"Name's familiar. Who is he?"

"Some comedian."

"Pass the chips, Dad?"

I was always behind the trends. (Class of '79, just FYI.) But like I said, easy going, so it didn't bother me none.

I was interested to hear recently that Martin worked for the Brothers Smothers. They'll be here in January. I hope to check 'em out. Maybe bring the kids. Heck, maybe they'll do &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummKvnnltr4" rel="nofollow"&gt;Waist Deep in the Big Muddy&lt;/a&gt;, just for old times' sake. (Some things never change.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>michelle (8):</b> How many of you know him from the original Saturday Night Live acts?</p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> I was pretty behind the times growing up. I never saw him on SNL (Either I wasn&#8217;t allowed to watch it, or to stay up that late, I can&#8217;t recall. But then, I was an easy-going kid, so it didn&#8217;t matter to me. Heck, maybe I simply didn&#8217;t care &#8230; )</p>
<p>Anyhoo, I do remember the first time I saw Martin: Dad was watching the Gong Show, and I sat down to join him. One of the celeb judges was wearing twisty balloons on his head.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who&#8217;s the guy wearing twisty balloons on his head?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Steve Martin.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Name&#8217;s familiar. Who is he?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Some comedian.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pass the chips, Dad?&#8221;</p>
<p>I was always behind the trends. (Class of &#8216;79, just FYI.) But like I said, easy going, so it didn&#8217;t bother me none.</p>
<p>I was interested to hear recently that Martin worked for the Brothers Smothers. They&#8217;ll be here in January. I hope to check &#8216;em out. Maybe bring the kids. Heck, maybe they&#8217;ll do <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummKvnnltr4" rel="nofollow">Waist Deep in the Big Muddy</a>, just for old times&#8217; sake. (Some things never change.)</p>
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		<title>By: dad dog</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246663</link>
		<dc:creator>dad dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246663</guid>
		<description>Night Train:

I have to laugh, because I did the very same thing: I was wandering through B&#38;N with my family when I saw the book on display.  I picked it up, started reading . . . and was totally sucked in.

Initially I started reading for selfish reasons not related to Martin's writing skills: (1) I'm a fan and have been since his start. (2) We grew up not far from each other (I'm a few years younger), so I was curious to see how he treated growing up in Orange County (after his family's move from LA). (3) I grew up about a mile from Disneyland, and my dad had business connections there, almost from its beginnings in 1955, so I essentially grew up at "the Park;"  and I, too, worked there when I was in college.

However, like I said, I got sucked in by his skill as a writer and by his story.  I thought I knew a lot about him, but I was fascinated by the Stormie Omartian, Mitzi Trumbo and Aaron Copland stories, etc., as well as his extensive time (and depth) as a real live Philosophy student.

I had long suspected that he had at least dabbled in philosophy -- especially after reading &lt;i&gt;Cruel Shoes&lt;/i&gt; -- but this memoir fleshed it out.

And, he even cracks a couple of jokes -- but just a couple.

Martin may not be a Christian (who knows, now?), but this book's certainly an entertaining inside look at growing up in the "entertainment capital of the world" during the sixties and seventies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Night Train:</p>
<p>I have to laugh, because I did the very same thing: I was wandering through B&amp;N with my family when I saw the book on display.  I picked it up, started reading . . . and was totally sucked in.</p>
<p>Initially I started reading for selfish reasons not related to Martin&#8217;s writing skills: (1) I&#8217;m a fan and have been since his start. (2) We grew up not far from each other (I&#8217;m a few years younger), so I was curious to see how he treated growing up in Orange County (after his family&#8217;s move from LA). (3) I grew up about a mile from Disneyland, and my dad had business connections there, almost from its beginnings in 1955, so I essentially grew up at &#8220;the Park;&#8221;  and I, too, worked there when I was in college.</p>
<p>However, like I said, I got sucked in by his skill as a writer and by his story.  I thought I knew a lot about him, but I was fascinated by the Stormie Omartian, Mitzi Trumbo and Aaron Copland stories, etc., as well as his extensive time (and depth) as a real live Philosophy student.</p>
<p>I had long suspected that he had at least dabbled in philosophy &#8212; especially after reading <i>Cruel Shoes</i> &#8212; but this memoir fleshed it out.</p>
<p>And, he even cracks a couple of jokes &#8212; but just a couple.</p>
<p>Martin may not be a Christian (who knows, now?), but this book&#8217;s certainly an entertaining inside look at growing up in the &#8220;entertainment capital of the world&#8221; during the sixties and seventies.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246576</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13: I agree, &lt;i&gt;The Lonely Guy&lt;/i&gt; was bad. I forgot about &lt;i&gt;Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.&lt;/i&gt; I need to see it again to be sure, but I think I liked it. 

&lt;i&gt;All Of Me&lt;/i&gt; also, one I overlooked that was quite good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13: I agree, <i>The Lonely Guy</i> was bad. I forgot about <i>Dead Men Don&#8217;t Wear Plaid.</i> I need to see it again to be sure, but I think I liked it. </p>
<p><i>All Of Me</i> also, one I overlooked that was quite good.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246508</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm surprised nobody mentioned &lt;i&gt;All of Me&lt;/i&gt; as one of their favorites.  It's a great showcase of Martin's physical comedy skills.

Of the Steve Martin movies I've seen (which admittedly isn't all of them), I liked &lt;i&gt;All of Me&lt;i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;My Blue Heaven&lt;i&gt; best.

&lt;i&gt;Leap of Faith&lt;i&gt; was good, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised nobody mentioned <i>All of Me</i> as one of their favorites.  It&#8217;s a great showcase of Martin&#8217;s physical comedy skills.</p>
<p>Of the Steve Martin movies I&#8217;ve seen (which admittedly isn&#8217;t all of them), I liked <i>All of Me</i><i> and </i><i>My Blue Heaven</i><i> best.</p>
<p></i><i>Leap of Faith</i><i> was good, too.</i></p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246504</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought "Leap of Faith" was actually quite good because it shows God using Martin's character as a vessel for good despite his cynicism and objections.  Also, it's rare to see a miraculous healing depicted so uncynically in a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;Leap of Faith&#8221; was actually quite good because it shows God using Martin&#8217;s character as a vessel for good despite his cynicism and objections.  Also, it&#8217;s rare to see a miraculous healing depicted so uncynically in a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Night Train</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246488</link>
		<dc:creator>Night Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Leap of Faith&lt;/i&gt; wasn't bad, but it wasn't great.  &lt;i&gt;Planes&lt;/i&gt; was pretty good, too.  Never saw &lt;i&gt;My Blue Heaven&lt;/i&gt;.  I thought &lt;i&gt;The Man With Two Brains&lt;/i&gt; was awful, albeit not as bad as its immediate successor, &lt;i&gt;The Lonely Guy&lt;/i&gt;, which was execrable.  &lt;i&gt;Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid&lt;/i&gt; was different, but not bad, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Leap of Faith</i> wasn&#8217;t bad, but it wasn&#8217;t great.  <i>Planes</i> was pretty good, too.  Never saw <i>My Blue Heaven</i>.  I thought <i>The Man With Two Brains</i> was awful, albeit not as bad as its immediate successor, <i>The Lonely Guy</i>, which was execrable.  <i>Dead Men Don&#8217;t Wear Plaid</i> was different, but not bad, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Night Train</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246483</link>
		<dc:creator>Night Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I didn't pay for the book.  Why would I?  i didn't take it home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I didn&#8217;t pay for the book.  Why would I?  i didn&#8217;t take it home.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246469</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NT, I'm also very fond of &lt;i&gt;Planes, Trains and Automobiles, The Man With Two Brains, My Blue Heaven&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Leap of Faith,&lt;/i&gt; though that last isn't a comedy. 

He's very good when he has good material to work from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT, I&#8217;m also very fond of <i>Planes, Trains and Automobiles, The Man With Two Brains, My Blue Heaven</i> and <i>Leap of Faith,</i> though that last isn&#8217;t a comedy. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s very good when he has good material to work from.</p>
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		<title>By: mommy</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/04/born-standing-up/#comment-246466</link>
		<dc:creator>mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, isn't anyone going to ask NT if he PAID for the book? Or am I going to have to break my self-imposed rule to not communicate with him to ask him, myself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, isn&#8217;t anyone going to ask NT if he PAID for the book? Or am I going to have to break my self-imposed rule to not communicate with him to ask him, myself?</p>
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