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		<title>By: mac</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293607</link>
		<dc:creator>mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with paying taxes.  I don't agree with people being seen as cash cows.  The amount of hatred aimed at wealthy people is astonishing.  What's more, the hatred is unquestioned for the most part.  There is no gratitude towards the tax payer, and that is a problem.  Everyone here needs to realize that 1% of the American population pays 40% of YOUR freight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with paying taxes.  I don&#8217;t agree with people being seen as cash cows.  The amount of hatred aimed at wealthy people is astonishing.  What&#8217;s more, the hatred is unquestioned for the most part.  There is no gratitude towards the tax payer, and that is a problem.  Everyone here needs to realize that 1% of the American population pays 40% of YOUR freight.</p>
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		<title>By: llama</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293432</link>
		<dc:creator>llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293432</guid>
		<description>There is no product or service that the federal government can provide that cannot be provided in higher quality, greater quantity and service for much less cost, hassle and waste by private enterprise.

The more we let these elitist spendthrifts, passing themselves off as our elected officials, tax us the poorer we all become, the more content and numb we become to poor; quality, return on our investment and acceptably lower and lower levels of performance.  The next thing you know, while they are getting rich and avoiding the ills that befall us,  we will lose control of our elected officials.  The worse they perform the more we will want them re-elected.

Before you know it, it won't make any difference who we elect because they will be all the same.  They will become our slave masters and we will hail them for the worse slop they will swill our way tomorrow and the next day.

We will forget the thought that possibly we let these fools take advantage of us and that we are to blame.  Instead, we will blame them, but not blame them enough to punish them in any way.  We will re-elect them again and again while we slit our own throats knowing we are finally doing the right thing for once. 

They will not morn or miss us - nor should they.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no product or service that the federal government can provide that cannot be provided in higher quality, greater quantity and service for much less cost, hassle and waste by private enterprise.</p>
<p>The more we let these elitist spendthrifts, passing themselves off as our elected officials, tax us the poorer we all become, the more content and numb we become to poor; quality, return on our investment and acceptably lower and lower levels of performance.  The next thing you know, while they are getting rich and avoiding the ills that befall us,  we will lose control of our elected officials.  The worse they perform the more we will want them re-elected.</p>
<p>Before you know it, it won&#8217;t make any difference who we elect because they will be all the same.  They will become our slave masters and we will hail them for the worse slop they will swill our way tomorrow and the next day.</p>
<p>We will forget the thought that possibly we let these fools take advantage of us and that we are to blame.  Instead, we will blame them, but not blame them enough to punish them in any way.  We will re-elect them again and again while we slit our own throats knowing we are finally doing the right thing for once. </p>
<p>They will not morn or miss us - nor should they.</p>
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		<title>By: RonD</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293385</link>
		<dc:creator>RonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293385</guid>
		<description>Taxes I don't mind. 

It's the ignorant, wasteful, useless, initiative destroying, profligate, agenda driven spending that results in overcharging, lost and stolen money that's now lining peoples' pockets and retirement accounts that really bugs me.

I'll pay for what is &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;really&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; needed and for that which produces visible/tangible improvement in something that &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;requires&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; improvement.  All the rest might as well be flushed down the porcelain convenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes I don&#8217;t mind. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the ignorant, wasteful, useless, initiative destroying, profligate, agenda driven spending that results in overcharging, lost and stolen money that&#8217;s now lining peoples&#8217; pockets and retirement accounts that really bugs me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pay for what is <i><b>really</b></i> needed and for that which produces visible/tangible improvement in something that <i><b>requires</b></i> improvement.  All the rest might as well be flushed down the porcelain convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: krm</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293324</link>
		<dc:creator>krm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293324</guid>
		<description>Liberals (excuse me, that's "progressives" now, isn't it) seem to think that if something they like (i.e. exorbidently taxing other people for programs that cause greater havoc than the original problems) isn't giving a good result, the 'solution' is to rename the act, and spend more money (taxed from the 'rich' - which means everyone over the poverty level) doing the same failed things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals (excuse me, that&#8217;s &#8220;progressives&#8221; now, isn&#8217;t it) seem to think that if something they like (i.e. exorbidently taxing other people for programs that cause greater havoc than the original problems) isn&#8217;t giving a good result, the &#8217;solution&#8217; is to rename the act, and spend more money (taxed from the &#8216;rich&#8217; - which means everyone over the poverty level) doing the same failed things.</p>
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		<title>By: klasko</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293224</link>
		<dc:creator>klasko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293224</guid>
		<description>You know, we could put a major dent in the deficit if the money spent on political campaigns was taxed by the federal government.  It's obscene the amount of money that political candidates throw down the hole of politics.  I don't think it's money well spent, especially if your candidate loses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, we could put a major dent in the deficit if the money spent on political campaigns was taxed by the federal government.  It&#8217;s obscene the amount of money that political candidates throw down the hole of politics.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s money well spent, especially if your candidate loses.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen O</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293211</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293211</guid>
		<description>We are all well-trained to make sure our tax returns are post-marked by midnight April 15.  (I believe, to be perfectly correct, that should be midnight, April 16.)

So what happens if someone slips theirs in the mail on their way to work on the morning of the 16th?  I read that the penalty for filing late is something like 5% per month added on what you owe.  Or maybe it was 5% of one's total taxes for the year?

But what about if it was just a matter of those extra 8 hours or so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all well-trained to make sure our tax returns are post-marked by midnight April 15.  (I believe, to be perfectly correct, that should be midnight, April 16.)</p>
<p>So what happens if someone slips theirs in the mail on their way to work on the morning of the 16th?  I read that the penalty for filing late is something like 5% per month added on what you owe.  Or maybe it was 5% of one&#8217;s total taxes for the year?</p>
<p>But what about if it was just a matter of those extra 8 hours or so?</p>
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		<title>By: mtcon</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293110</link>
		<dc:creator>mtcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293110</guid>
		<description>I don't necessarily like to pay taxes but as a self employed farmer for most of my life I have always felt that if I could make enough to pay some tax it was a pretty good year.  I think the tax cuts have benefitted the economy by putting more money into circulation and less (percentagewise) into the government coffers.  In the end the government was richer for it.

My most hopeful wish would be that the government would spend less on things that should not be federal issues and let the private sector, locals and state fund it more appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily like to pay taxes but as a self employed farmer for most of my life I have always felt that if I could make enough to pay some tax it was a pretty good year.  I think the tax cuts have benefitted the economy by putting more money into circulation and less (percentagewise) into the government coffers.  In the end the government was richer for it.</p>
<p>My most hopeful wish would be that the government would spend less on things that should not be federal issues and let the private sector, locals and state fund it more appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293065</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293065</guid>
		<description>"I like to pay taxes.  With them I buy civilization."  ~&lt;b&gt;Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.&lt;/b&gt;

Taxes, after all, are dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society.  ~&lt;b&gt;Franklin D. Roosevelt&lt;/b&gt;

The expenses of government, having for their object the interest of all, should be borne by everyone, and the more a man enjoys the advantages of society, the more he ought to hold himself honored in contributing to those expenses.  ~&lt;b&gt;Anne Robert Jacques Turgot&lt;/b&gt;

Why shouldn't the American people take half my money from me? I took all of it from them. 
--&lt;b&gt;Edward A. Filene &lt;/b&gt;

The idea that some people would pay half of their estate, after some substantial exemptions, to the federal government seems to me entirely appropriate. 
--&lt;b&gt;Bill Gates Sr. &lt;/b&gt;


Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. 

--&lt;b&gt;Thomas Jefferson &lt;/b&gt;

Of course the truth is that the congresspersons are too busy raising campaign money to read the laws they pass.  The laws are written by staff tax nerds who can put pretty much any wording they want in there.  I bet that if you actually read the entire vastness of the U.S. Tax Code, you'd find at least one sex scene ("'Yes, yes, YES!' moaned Vanessa as Lance, his taut body moist with moisture, again and again depreciated her adjusted gross rate of annualized fiscal debenture").  ~&lt;b&gt;Dave Barry&lt;/b&gt;

Be wary of strong drink.  It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss.  ~&lt;b&gt;Robert Heinlein&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like to pay taxes.  With them I buy civilization.&#8221;  ~<b>Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></p>
<p>Taxes, after all, are dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society.  ~<b>Franklin D. Roosevelt</b></p>
<p>The expenses of government, having for their object the interest of all, should be borne by everyone, and the more a man enjoys the advantages of society, the more he ought to hold himself honored in contributing to those expenses.  ~<b>Anne Robert Jacques Turgot</b></p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t the American people take half my money from me? I took all of it from them.<br />
&#8211;<b>Edward A. Filene </b></p>
<p>The idea that some people would pay half of their estate, after some substantial exemptions, to the federal government seems to me entirely appropriate.<br />
&#8211;<b>Bill Gates Sr. </b></p>
<p>Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. </p>
<p>&#8211;<b>Thomas Jefferson </b></p>
<p>Of course the truth is that the congresspersons are too busy raising campaign money to read the laws they pass.  The laws are written by staff tax nerds who can put pretty much any wording they want in there.  I bet that if you actually read the entire vastness of the U.S. Tax Code, you&#8217;d find at least one sex scene (&#8221;&#8216;Yes, yes, YES!&#8217; moaned Vanessa as Lance, his taut body moist with moisture, again and again depreciated her adjusted gross rate of annualized fiscal debenture&#8221;).  ~<b>Dave Barry</b></p>
<p>Be wary of strong drink.  It can make you shoot at tax collectors&#8230; and miss.  ~<b>Robert Heinlein</b></p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293028</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293028</guid>
		<description>I don't really mind paying taxes because I understand the need.  It does get a little irksome that 25% of the population pays 85% of the taxes, and that 50% pay virtually nothing, but that's democracy.  People will always vote themselves a free ride.  I'm not really for the flat tax because that would be a significant burden on the poor, but just making it a little less skewed would be fair IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really mind paying taxes because I understand the need.  It does get a little irksome that 25% of the population pays 85% of the taxes, and that 50% pay virtually nothing, but that&#8217;s democracy.  People will always vote themselves a free ride.  I&#8217;m not really for the flat tax because that would be a significant burden on the poor, but just making it a little less skewed would be fair IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293027</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/16/pay-your-dues/#comment-293027</guid>
		<description>I have the opposite reaction to the term "dues." The last time I paid "dues" was in Cub Scouts. I hated the Cub Scouts and from that time forward I never joined another association until recently, when I joined the National Association for the Self Employed. Of course, just like in the Cub Scouts, I got nothing for my "dues" so I quit that too.

I don't want to pay you any kind of "dues" or "taxes" unless you got an army to back you up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the opposite reaction to the term &#8220;dues.&#8221; The last time I paid &#8220;dues&#8221; was in Cub Scouts. I hated the Cub Scouts and from that time forward I never joined another association until recently, when I joined the National Association for the Self Employed. Of course, just like in the Cub Scouts, I got nothing for my &#8220;dues&#8221; so I quit that too.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to pay you any kind of &#8220;dues&#8221; or &#8220;taxes&#8221; unless you got an army to back you up.</p>
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