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Happy President’s Day!
Today’s quote is from a movie: “Atrocity and terror are not political weapons. And to those who would use them, your day is over. We will never negotiate. We will no longer tolerate and we will no longer be afraid. It’s your turn to be afraid.”

















Air Force One?
Oh, this is going to bother me all day. I’ve seen that movie but can’t quite place it. I does sound a lot like Mel Gibson’s speech in the movie where his child is kidnapped (is that “Kidnapped”? Did they rip off the title from the kid’s novel?).
the only movies I can think of with presidents are “The American President” and “Dave.” I can’t see either of them standing up to terrorists!
The Larry Sinclair gay sex/drugs allegations against Obama are getting more mileage. The top story on WorldNetDaily over the weekend and today is that Sinclair is suing, saying he’s being intimidated and threatened by the Obama campaign. It’s also on The Smoking Gun website, although they refer to him as ” a kook”, while WND appears to be taking the story seriously. A third website, whitehouse.com, has offered Sinclair $10,000 to take a polygraph, and he’s supposedly accepted. If he passes, he gets an additional $100,000.
Is he telling the truth, or is he just a mentally unstable person looking for his 15 minutes? Personally, I learn toward kook, although I would never be shocked to find out that any Democrat or Republican was into coke and gay sex.
Here’s a guess: perhaps one of the Clancy movies. The last one was “The Sum of All Fears”, I think, and that involved a vicious terrorist attack.
An interesting site on ranking the U.S. Presidents.
http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/govt/courses/F04/PresidentialRankings.pdf
Emma wins! Air Force One is correct. Please enjoy your digital cappucino…
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Go Emma!
I had a great weekend at a Bible conference outside of Alexandria, LA. I loved the warm weather. They turned on the A/C, in February!! We in the colder climes still have two months of heater weather, and they turned on the A/C!!
Anyway, I have been doing a little catching up. I too welcome the newcomers (to the “Regulars” list) Ajisuun and Metanoia. So, Metanoia, if life doesn’t begin until all the children leave and the dog dies, what am I doing now?
Speaking of regulars, there seem to be several on the regulars list who never (or very rarely) post anything. Why are they considered regulars?
I am considered a “Depression Baby” (1930); most of us here are “Boomer Babies”.
At church last night, I saw an interesting, short video of a young girl, A “Gen-Xer” discussing their philosophy, lifestyle and attitudes toward church. In wasn’t all-inclusive, just eight minutes long. Her talk was not directed to me, of course, but the Baby Boomers. Most of you.
But some of the things she said interested and somewhat bothered me.
“The way we look for answers is different.” In what way? You say that your generation doesn’t consider marriage essential, but is single moms going to be the norm? The search for answers may be different, but the answer is always the same.
You say that so many things are relevant, but truth is not relevant. Wherever you find it, it is not relevant.
The key comment you made is that you’re “homesick for a place you’ve never been”. I may not understand, but I know of your plight. You were raised by a generation that, in many cases, considered you a nusiance and expendable. Your parents may have been busy with the environment or changing the world. But though you and I may not communicate the same way. The answer is the same.
You have your own world. It was a mess when handed to you. Mine was too. We may not communicat the same way, but:
I’ve been where you are.
“relevant” above, should have been “relative”.
chas,
I know there’s an age difference between us, and you’d probably call me young at 31, but if she was much younger than that, she’s not a Gen-X girl.
I have no idea what they’re officially calling the generation after mine (I’ve heard several labels, but nothing “official”),
She sounds awfully post-modern, though, which also likely places her in the generation after mine (Gen-Y? dot-com?)
Does anyone happen to know Guy Penrod’s song, “Knowing You’ll Be There”?
It’s confusing as the first stanza it sounds as if he’s talking about a loved one but the last, it sounds as if he’s talking about Jesus.
Any thoughts,insights?
Thanks to everyone who prayed for my son last week. He was happy to hear that people from WMB were praying for him.
He came home on Friday and seems very much himself today. Although we still don’t know exactly what was wrong, the procedure on Thursday helped rule out some not-so-good things and will, Lord willing, prevent some future problems.
A quick update on the S. family, for those who have been praying: both the 10-y.o. and the 15-y.o. have made some remarkable progress. They’re still in the hospital and still have a long way to go, but they’re going in the right direction.
Sadly, their 13-y.o. friend, who had very similar injuries to the 15-y.o., is not recovering as well as they are. So please pray for him, and for Mrs. S. I saw her on Friday, and, while she’s healing physically, and doing better than she was, she still seems very fragile.
Thanks again for your prayers and support.
Just a child Cameron, just a child. At 31, I had a three year old child, but -other than military- I still haven’t had my first permanent full time job.
VS, don’t ask me. This old geezer doesn’t even know Guy Penrod.
MacMurray, thanks for the update and for reminding us again. Will continur prayer.
Cameron,
I’ve heard the generation that was born in the late ’80s & early ’90s as the “Millennium Generation,” because they are coming of age in the new millennium. That group includes my 2 grandchildren, who I’ve got to stop referring to as ‘almost-grown’ because they both are old enough to vote this year.
I guess I was some sort of niche baby, born between the depression babies and the baby boomers. I don’t think we ever got a group name. I like to think it’s because we’re a generation of individuals.
Chas - I think he’s part of The Gaither clan and my mom (who is in her 70’s) is quite fond of that group of people so I was kind of hoping you might know.
Here are the lyrics - tell me what you (any of you) think,ok?
The other day i passed the place,you always liked to go
and i picked up the phone because, i thought you’d wanna know
but i forgot you weren’t there i miss you all these days, that i am reminded of your smile and the funny things you’d say
i see you most at christmas, you were like a little kid
you always loved a good surprise, and now i must admit, that i long more for heaven than ever did before
you give me one more reason and each day i want it more
(chorus)
knowing we can spend a life time reminiscing on the past, knowing i will see your face again where tender moments last
it makes me wanna go there
(knowing i wont be alone)
knowing you’ll be there
makes it easy to go home
you left a group of fisherman
somehow, you left me too
though i have felt you many times, i know you saw me through
i always long to feel your arms and look into your eyes, and talk forever me and you somewhere in paradise. (back to chorus)
Here’s the generational list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generations
Kayvee, based on your information (if I read it right), it looks as though you may be part of the Silent Generation.
Thanks for Generations link, Cameron.
I just discovered that I’m part of “Generation Jones” - those born between 1954 and ‘64.
Generation Jones. Huh? Why have I never heard this term before?
This is lame! I don’t want to be in Generation Jones! What a dorky name. I keep thinking of the band Jesus Jones, or Cosby’s “Basketball Jones” routine.
Generation Jones. Boo. Count me out. And stop marketing all those products to me that prey on my guilt over unfulfilled expectations.
I appear to be Generation Jones as well, who were teens in the 70’s. Once again I’d like to apologize for disco and bell-bottom pants.
TJ and I are nearly a decade apart (’67, ‘76 respectively), and are both classed as Gen-X’ers, though we’re both on the edges.
However, our experiences and memories growing up are radically different. Things important to him in high school weren’t even on my radar, since I was in early elementary school. He’ll say, “Remember [event, song, etc]?”
Nope, I was four.
This may explain why the list attempts to subdivide some generations such as mine.
I guess I’m undeniably the “Silent Generation”. That makes sense. Nobody listens to me, especially children and grandchildren. My son is a “Generation Jones”. Like you young whippersnappers, he’s probably never heard of it either. As for his children, they’r too busy trying to make it through their world to worry about any of that (see #9, above).
VS: I like the Gaithers, but I don’t recognize the name or song. The Chuck Wagon Gang will be here in April. I plan to see them.
Hmmmm…
Well it appears that I’m one of the Joneses too. Guess I’d better keep up. I was always confused about what generation I was in because it seems I always missed the cutoff dates.
Unfulfilled expectations? Doesn’t every generation get that?
I will NOT apologize for Disco Duck! It’s not my fault. (Besides, how can ya hate such a silly son?)
I could use some prayers and positive thoughts. I took Chloe to the doctor just a bit ago and she has the flu and strep. She will be out of school for a week now.
Cameron: thanks for the link to the Wikipedia list of generations. It was interesting, but I noticed that it states that there are “issues” with the list, mostly the lack of reliable sources or references.
I guess I do fit into the “Silent Generation,” although I’ve never heard it used in any news report or other discussion. That’s ok with me, although we were the generation that started Rock & Roll [Bill Haley & the Comets, Rock Around the Clock 1955].
I think the Greatest Generation was a term invented by Tom Brokaw when he wrote his book about the soldiers of WWII, they would have to be part of the Silent Generation in order to be old enough to have served. I’ve never heard anyone refer to a group as the Jones Generation, and the chart gives them a time frame that overlaps the Baby Boomers [’46-’64] and Gen X [’65-’80], both terms used frequently.
Born in ‘67. My older brothers were baby boomers, and I was one of the members of Generation X or the baby busters, or various other names. I once had to edit a book written about our generation, one of the toughest assignments I ever did. Nothing in the book described me! My generation was said to be lazy, dishonest, not caring about family, not creative, I don’t remember what all. Employers were all but told to pass on hiring someone my age, because we’d care only about the money we would earn and not the organization, and we’d do as little work as we possibly could. I knew I was a diligent, valued employee anywhere I’d ever worked (and had put myself through college). Most of my acquaintances and friends were boomers, and many of them really didn’t have a very good work ethic.
The author made the puzzling point that the baby boomers were known for rock and roll and the busters weren’t known for any one sort of music. His point was that we weren’t good at coming together and getting something done. My reaction was several things: The baby boomers were proud of being known as “a generation”; we couldn’t care less. We weren’t trying to define ourselves generationally, so that was a very boomerish analysis rather than an objective one. Plus, boomers came up with rock and roll, but generation X had too many sorts of music to be unified–they were more creative than to be known for just one music genre, if that happens to be important!
The author started each chapter with an in-depth look at the life of one person from my generation: some introspective, unemployed, whiny loser, as a rule. One chapter didn’t have such a story, and I suggested that he be bold and include a story of someone like me who didn’t fit the mold at all. He declined.
The author did say my generation cares about people, being very loyal to friends, and that we rejected the me-first materialism of previous generations (we were less inclined to send kids to day care, for instance). But that book was really one of the hardest ones I ever worked with!
I really think this idea of generations fitting a specific mold is a very boomerish one–it worked for them, but it didn’t work well for generations before or after them. To some extent we can say what people born in a given decade are like, on average, but it’s very simplistic, and the baby boomers are really the only ones who wanted to approach the world as one big solid mass of people of a certain age. Those before and after care more about people in our own lives, whether older or younger, than about our “generation.” We can’t really continue to look at “generations”; already it’s getting confusing. (What generation are we in now? What year did that generation start?) So let’s just admit the baby boomers like generational thinking (and stereotypical thinking, like what I’m doing about them), and the rest of us don’t really need it. So let’s label the baby boomers as their own little generation, and let the rest of us just be people.
Some people never learn. Some idiot multimillionaire has spent 25 million bucks of his own mony on a Branson MO version of Heritage USA so that the disgraced Jim Bakker can start fleecing old people out of their money again. Disgusting.
http://snipurl.com/1zvv1
I’m so sorry, Kim. I’m just coming out that.
I’m kind of glad to hear about the Jones generation. I never quiet related to the hippy thing, especially the tendency to dress like Indians.
Okay, I had one fringed vest.
Has any of you ever felt nervous for hours on end, without any apparent reason? I felt that way all day last Monday, and finally ended up going to the ER late that evening (they could find nothing but low thyroid, and gave me a higher dosage). Today I feel that way again. I can think of nothing I’m concerned about - except now the fact that I feel this way.
I try to breathe slowly and deeply, and feel as though I were hyperventilating (which I think is the opposite, breathing too quickly). I made a doctor’s appointment for tomorrow (the soonest they had an opening), but in the meantime I have to get through the rest of today.
Pauline, yes, I have felt that way. I do have a thyroid condition. I take meds for it now, but will still feel that way sometimes, to the point where it is sometimes difficult to go places or visit people. It is very uncomfortable and out of your control for the most part. Hopefully, the meds will help, but they take a long time to get into your system, so you will have to be patient. I will pray for you now too.
I am laughing about the generation Jones thing. My sister was born during that period and was a Jones, as was I. Too funny for us! BTW–not too much to keep up with as far as either of us or our siblings! I was a ‘51 baby, so apparently not the Jones period. Labeling a whole generation is so silly anyway. Sure there can be some things in common, but we all had different experiences–from extreme poverty to great wealth for example.
Thanks, KI. That would make sense, since the first times I ever felt that way (though it didn’t last as long) was during my first pregnancy, and it was when my son was 5 months old that they diagnosed my thyroid condition. The next times I remember it were during my second pregnancy - after which they had to adjust my Synthroid dosage.
I hadn’t realized it took that long for the increased dosage to work.
And if it’s out of my control, I think I can cope with it better, as I won’t have the added concern about what I should be doing about it. Though I have to decide whether I’m up to driving myself home from work, as it’s getting harder to keep my mind on what I’m doing.
I know that is unpleasant, Pauline. I always feel like I am going to die of a heart attack. It hasn’t happened yet. My daughter had some problems along this while and ended up taking an ambulance twice for it. She received all kinds of diagnosises(?) for it, even having one doctor ready to give her drugs for anxiety. I knew that was not her problem. The 2nd ambulance ride resulted in a diagnosis of Mono. She was swelling up and the resulting pressure felt like a heart attack. As she was home alone (naturally it was one of the times her husband, a commercial fisherman, was gone!) she panicked and called for help. Once she knew what it was, she was able to deal with it, though it returned several times. I hope you will feel better soon. Those thyroid drugs work very slowly. Always better to be safe than sorry, though, if you really need help.
I’m a Gen-Xer, I guess. Who knew? Is that a good thing, or a bad thing? What will they come up with for my kids??
Some things never change. The older generation thinks the world is going to hell in a hand basket and that it will destroy itself as soon as the baton is passed to the next generation.
The reality is that this is stereotyping and each older generation doesn’t understand the younger ones. Each generation has passed on a better, more equal, wealthier (in all respects) nation that the nast. Baby boomers will be no different.
Anyone see where Obama’s wife said that until her husband’s success this year, there hasn’t been any reason to be proud of America?
Wow.
It was interesting, but I noticed that it states that there are “issues” with the list, mostly the lack of reliable sources or references.
You know, I should/could have put a disclaimer about that, but I sort of feel that it applies to all of Wikipedia!
If you’re interested, here’s a radio interview with Larry Sinclair. He comes off a lot better than he does on his YouTube video.
http://snipurl.com/1zwbw
Worldnetdaily is the “National Enquirer” of the far right. It makes Fox News look like a far left news outlet. It’s a fun site to look at, but not one for legitimate, serious journalism. Reading their banners is like standing in line at Wal-Mart reading the cover of the “National Enquirer” or “The Star”.
That’s true, Anlir. And the Jeff Rense site (Rense is the one doing the radio interview) makes WND look like the New York Times.
But none of that means Larry Sinclair is lying.
# 39: So nice to see the genetic fallacy first hand in action!
Actually, I’ve always been a fan of the Weekly World News (I believe I read that it folded recently). I’ll never forget that space alien that endorsed Bill Clinton. Years later it was reported by the same WWN that Hillary was having an affair with an alien — the same one who had endorsed Bill! Classic!